In 2024 we may well be watchingKamala Harrisand Mike Pence go head to head as presidential candidates.
If the ex-Secretary of State was concerned, she needn’t have been.
The Listtalked to body language expert and psychologistDr.

The fact that Harris' crossed her legs at times?
After the debate, Dr. Carr confirmed toThe Listwhat Harris, herself, admitted.
Carr further pointed to Harris' raised eyebrows and squinting eyes.

On the debate floor, Harris came particularly prepared to counter the Trump Administration’s response to COVID 19.
Per Dr. Carr, Harris revealed her true feelings when she and Pence sparred over ISIS.
“You gotta know who youradversariesare,” Kamala Harris told the debate audience.

Why is that significant?
The unscripted moment played directly into Harris' hand.
She reached out to us, not only with rhetoric but with body language.

Her expressions were carefully calculated to ensure voters felt she was relatable, honest, and every-day.
When, for example, Harris assured voters wide-eyed, “Joe Biden will not ban fracking”?
When debate moderator, Susan Page, askedHarris if she would take a COVID-19 vaccine.
“The tell-tale sign of her irritation was a flared nose,” says Carr.
When Harris laughed after Pence alleged that “Biden would raise taxes on the first day.”
How can a laugh, you think, be a sign of anger?
But the most emotional Harris got during the debate was during discussions about the police killing of Breonna Taylor.