However, the young pop star was eventually able to break down Gaga’s walls.

“She was so persistent,” Gaga told the radio show host.

“She would try over and over again to be friends with me.

Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande

TheChromaticasinger revealed that she knew Grande had been through some very difficult things in her short life.

“Eventually she called me on my st,” Gaga admitted.

“She was like, ‘You’re hiding.’

Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande

And I was like, ‘I am hiding.

I’m totally hiding.’

And then this friendship blossomed.”

Gaga explained the lyrics reflect a conversation she had with Grande.

“I sat with her and we talked about our lives,” Gaga toldPapermagazine.

Gaga confessed that writing the song was healing for her and she learned to forgive herself.

When fans listen to her new songs, she ultimately wants them to leave feeling hopeful.