Those shows are fun to watch, but picture those people who help create the transformation.

What if they themselves were just as interesting, if not more so, than the design work?

even more about this fantastic show.

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So how can we be more like the expert?

Pulos said, “He’s taught me to reduce clutter.

I’m never going to be Jeff Lewis.

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I want my house to have layers of coziness, but I do see his points about things.

We can always be more organized.”

Pulos continued to say, “I find the no-condiments thing funny.

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He likes all the labels facing the same way.

He doesn’t like smell; he’s very sensitive to smell, so no leftovers.

Lewis may take organization to new levels, but no one can argue with the end product.

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We later learned in 2014when Lewis was on theBethennytalk show, that there was a reason for that.

He and Pulos had been friends and coworkers for years before the show began.

He toldBethenny, “We’ve been friends for about 15 years.”

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Lewis said, “She was great.

I said, ‘You have to come work for me.

You’re so amazing.

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You’re so organized.

‘Plus we really enjoyed each other and had so much fun.

That evolved into a very long working relationship.”

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We hope Lewis and Pulos keep working together for another 15 years!

Behind those on-TV firings

Flipping Outis one show that definitely falls under the category of reality TV.

The show follows the entire flipping house and design work process.

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With each episode giving a closer look into the business operations, the day-to-day isn’t always fun.

We spent a lot of time together.”

So why did Lewis choose when he did to take action?

He was actually trying to help.

“I waited as long as I could, and….

I’m trying to… how do I say this?

Obviously people are paid to be on the show.

I wanted them to get as much of those cast fees as they could.

So I got her as far through that season as I could.

But really, it was starting to affect our relationship.

However, quickly it was realized that she was way more than that.

Those skills have been put to work outside of theFlipping Outworld as well.

Bravodescribes Pulosas someone who “has worn many hats,” and her resume shows this.

And speaking of music, Pulos is known for her rapping.

Seriously, is there anything Pulos can’t do?

Jeff Lewis has been fired before

Can we split this?

He’s had the confidence and team to get things done.

But as seen in August 2015, this wasn’t always the case.

He was also the employee and knew the feeling of losing a job.

And just as usual, Lewis wasn’t afraid to be blunt.

He told Andy Cohen, “I got kicked to the curb.

And after the show aired, they did not like how they looked and they fired me.

And also the girl that sabotaged, well allegedly sabotaged my shoot, she had gone to HR.

From what I gather, she might have threatened a lawsuit as a result.

And that is exactly what he did.

Lewis and Pulosposted a variety of social media postspoking fun at the idea of Lewis’ unemployment.

So has this always been for the show or is her employment and relationship with Lewis real?

Great news: it’s all very true even the part regarding her lack-of-housekeeping.

When asked about her housekeeping skillsonBethennyin 2014, Lewis said, “She’s the worst.”

But just as usual with Lewis, it’s all in good fun.

He went on to say, “She takes really good care of me.

She’s like my surrogate mom.

My mom died when I was very young and she’s been with me for a very long time.

She [Chavez] lives with us Gage and I and it’s really funny.”

So what is Chavez doing each day?

She helps around the house and feeds Lewis’ dogs and cat.

One thing she is absolutely not doing: cooking for Lewis.

“She says it was an accident, but it was not an accident.

But food poisoning aside, Chavez is part of Lewis' family.

I believe in this and I think that it’s right for everybody.”

Fingers crossed we still have just as much Chavez on futureFlipping Outepisodes!

Some stuck around for awhile, and others just weren’t the right fit.

He said, “We work from my home and we work really long hours.

Having a quiet person sitting at a desk 10 feet away from me is uncomfortable.

The design business is certainly my first priority, but I have always been drawn to characters and personalities.

I enjoy my work and the people I work with.”

Should we all submit our resumes now?

However, it’s not one that we’d expect.

I mean, the way she’s training those guys over there!

If I have to stand outside Jenner Communications and make offers on the spot, I will.”

And even though there’s a chance Jenner isn’t thrilled with Lewis, he thinks highly of her.

He also shared that his nickname for Gage Edward, his partner and coworker, is Kris Jenner.

And it’s been great to be a part of that ride.”